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 Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: the hindu worm may be turning |
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On Nov 14, 2:45�pm, hari.ku...@indero.com wrote:
| Quote: | "hindus have no choice but to look after their own security since a) the
govt is in bed with terrorists. b) they have no legal agency to depend
on for their own safety. and we are talking about their safety not in a
foreign country from which they could migrate out; we are talking about
thier own homeland. c) hindus don't need to worry about 3m axis labeling
them. the 3m is already doing it, so what the heck? it is a fight for
survival. the fight against terror in india is not different than the
pre-emption usa is fighting. �if the indian govt is not going to have
pota and such stern measures, what are the hindus supposed to do? not
certainly die like mahatma."
The right to be safe in one's person and life and home is the right of
all indian citizens. �These rights do not vary by social sub divisions.
In the recent violation of those rights with murder and rape and
destruction and displacement of thousands who wer the victums and who
were the terrorists?
mahatma was victum of whom? �Army officiers and police officials who
were found to be terrorists were all indians and all victums were
indians. �That is the only label that counts.
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You have no respect for Mahatma Gandhi -- he condemned conversions by
Christian Missionaries. You are a supporter of conversion activity by
Christian Missionaries. Remember Christian Aggression by the
Portugese, the French and the British in India? Remember the Goa
Inquisition by Christians? Remember the genocide of Native Americans
by Christians in the Americas?
Just watch the Religion of Love in action! |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: Re: the hindu worm may be turning |
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"hindus have no choice but to look after their own security since a) the
govt is in bed with terrorists. b) they have no legal agency to depend
on for their own safety. and we are talking about their safety not in a
foreign country from which they could migrate out; we are talking about
thier own homeland. c) hindus don't need to worry about 3m axis labeling
them. the 3m is already doing it, so what the heck? it is a fight for
survival. the fight against terror in india is not different than the
pre-emption usa is fighting. if the indian govt is not going to have
pota and such stern measures, what are the hindus supposed to do? not
certainly die like mahatma."
The right to be safe in one's person and life and home is the right of
all indian citizens. These rights do not vary by social sub divisions.
In the recent violation of those rights with murder and rape and
destruction and displacement of thousands who wer the victums and who
were the terrorists?
mahatma was victum of whom? Army officiers and police officials who
were found to be terrorists were all indians and all victums were
indians. That is the only label that counts. |
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harmony
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: Re: the hindu worm may be turning |
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i think the hindus tried non-violence for decades; things have gotten only
worse. 3m are imperialist people, they are inherently violent. they can not
be reasoned with nor contracted with for peaceful living.
<usenet@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in
message news:20081113MYv9Od9z8Pi4C64ovL9h4j0@OXC2Q...
| Quote: | "I do believe that where there is only
a choice between cowardice and violence I
would advise violence . . . but non-violence
is infinitely superior to violence."
- Mahatma Gandhi.
Jai Maharaj
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http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <491c8595$0$5474$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
hindus have no choice but to look after their own security since
a) the govt is in bed with terrorists.
b) they have no legal agency to depend on for their own safety. and we
are
talking about their safety not in a foreign country from which they could
migrate out; we are talking about thier own homeland.
c) hindus don't need to worry about 3m axis labeling them. the 3m is
already
doing it, so what the heck? it is a fight for survival. the fight against
terror in india is not different than the pre-emption usa is fighting. if
the indian govt is not going to have pota and such stern measures, what
are
the hindus supposed to do? not certainly die like mahatma.
"dhananjay" <bandyaggroup@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:8cc2eafc-fedf-40d8-aec3-ca8f77c89361@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
the ATS knows about sadhvi prdnya from 2006 about her speeches and
involvements of some accused in military training.
at Feb 09 LS polls so, to put you on defensive "secular alliance"
opened a speculative sceane where no charge sheet is put even after 15
days on sadhvi.
The sadhvi is being man handled without putting any chargesheet while
afzal guru enjoys life even after supreme court ruled for death
penalty.
to mention that hindu nationalists should feel guilty for the
"violance they support" as opposed by non violance why the state which
follows gandhi is using violance with sadhvi?
why not treat her with roses instead of narko tests and try to turn
her mind away from hard core hindutva to monirity apeasment politics?
try it.
to put the counter argument on non violance and muslim killings
because they are muslims (which is suppose to put you in guilt)
consider this, indian state (all of them mind it) are treated as enemy
in pakistan (and bangladesh) by muslim governments there (all are
muslims) and the indians are accused and convicted in murder bomb
blast and serial killings of pakistani people (of coarse muslims) eg
sarabjit singh.
the indian government if i select to believe pakistani media plans to
kill muslims in pakistan (a terrorist act right?) but arrests sadhvi
for allegedly doing so?
means they want to decide when muslims will be killed because they are
muslims in pakistan but on retaliation when these pakistani groups do
serial bomb blasts in india in mumbai in local trains and run away
with help from local minority apeasing politicians e.g abu aazmi MP SP
(as he was arrested in TADA after 1992 later released by CBI when case
transfred) hindus should stick to two min silence. it is true that
sadvi can not run away as she considers this her own country her
monther land (remember vande mataram?) and she fights for akhand
bharat unlike muslims who plan revenge blasts not for non secular
stands from GOI (who cares for indian government) but because of its
hindu identity in its past.
The indian government (any party) should answer the pakistani
accusations that why it plans underground attacks on islamic
terrorists in pakistan (as they cant go on open war like US did in
iraq?) but does want its hindu population to remain un affected by the
decade long retaliation attacks and run away from india (into
pakistan) by muslim terrorists? that too with support from local
population, see zakhir naik's lectures.
do they think hindus will feel guilt for a woman coming forward to
take their side when those who should are showing insensitivity?
And for the secular parties in india (i mean those minority pleasing)
its time to show that they are true secular by coming forward for
hindu terrorists too just like they do for islamic terrorists and cry
for help and violation of human rights!
after all hindus are human too right?
Dhananjay
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Which is more dangerous for Hindus? |
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In article <2115b203-db31-4f29-a702-5eade5b4c494@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:
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Which is more dangerous for Hindus?
The Religion of Love
or
The Religion of Peace ?
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I post, you decide:
Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT ---------------FIRST RIG VEDA CONFERENCE - |
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In article <870fc936-ae5b-4d6c-ae39-cf2e899050a9@u29g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
ravimpillay <ravimpillay@gmail.com> posted:
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vedic Scholars are invited to participate in the First National
Conference on Rig Veda, in Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu. This three day
conference, to
be held between 19-22 December 2008, is jointly sponsored by the
University of Spiritual Research, based in USA, and Satyachetana
Educational Trust,
based in India. The focus of this conference will be a creative look
at the Rig Veda with original thinking presented by the scholars.
Feel free to forward this message to anyone who might be interested to
participate. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Dr. Sampadananda Mishra
Convenor
scetvr@gmail.com
*Details of the Confernce given below. *
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Vedic scholars are invited to participate in a National Conference on
RgVeda. This three day conference will be held between 19-22 December
2008
in Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu. The topics addressed will center on the
RgVeda. The research results should focus new insights on the ancient
wisdom of
Veda.
WHO ARE WE?
This conference is a joint venture of the University of Spiritual
Research (USR) and Satyachetana Educational Trust (SCET). USR is based
in Napa,
California, USA. It was founded in 2004, inspired by the guidance of
Swami SriAtmananda. USR is dedicated to comparative studies of the
major religions of
the world in order to demonstrate their unity and amplify their
eternal wisdom. SCET is a registered Public Charitable Organization,
established in 2003 in
Tiruvannamalai, India to promote spiritual and material education. It
acts as liaison for USR, which has undertaken to study all the Vedas
in depth,
beginning with the RgVeda. SCET facilitates this research project in
Tiruvannamalai through the Institute of Vedic Research. USR's team of
Sanskrit scholars performs intense research to decode and compile the
lost wisdom of the Vedas. Their work includes dissecting each mantra,
converting it to prose form, analyzing each word and finding its root
meaning, integrating each word with the following word to ensure that
there are no
gaps in meaning, and finally, giving a brief English translation
linked with the true meaning of the words.
WHERE ARE WE?
Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu, is located about 3 hours by taxi from
Chennai and about 2 hours from Pondicherry, Villupuram and Kathpadi.
Tiruvannamalai spreads around the base of Mt. Arunachala, which is
considered to be the
embodiment of Lord Siva. It is a place of saints and seers and is the
site of many ashrams, the perfect spiritual environment for a
conference on the Vedas.
HOW TO PARTICIPATE
The scholars interested to participate in the conference are requested
to
submit an abstract in English (not more than 500 words) of one of the
following topics:
1. Vedic Seers
2. Vedic Gods
3. Vedic Meters
4. Vedic Pecularity
a) Vedic Accent
b) Vedic Etymology
5. Vedic Interpretations
6. Relevance of Veda
You are requested to submit the abstract along with bio data and one
passport size photo latest by 10th October, 2008. Email submissions
are
recommended. Please send to scetvr@gmail.com (scetvr AT gmail DOT
com) .
Those selected will be notified with the terms and conditions for
submitting
the final paper. Participants will be chosen on the basis of the
quality of
the abstract submitted. The focus is on new research and original
thinking
on the topics provided.
WHY ARE WE CONDUCTING THIS CONFERENCE?
To stir widespread interest in the Vedas.
To initiate new thinking in the field of Vedic Studies.
To encourage more original research in RgVeda.
To awaken deeper awareness of the wisdom of Veda.
To acquaint the Vedic community with the work already in progress.
The Conference will emphasize:
Open discussion of these novel ideas, using the accepted norms as a
base.
Expanding the wisdom of the ages by innovative approaches to the
topics.
Encouragingwillingness to look at the research with fresh eyes.
Mail abstracts to:
Convenor
National Conference on RgVeda
Institute of Vedic Research
130 A Sun Building
Minnagar, Vengikkal
Tiruvannamalai 606 604
Tamil Nadu
Phone No.: 04175-233050
Email: scetvr @ gmail.com
Dr. Sampadananda Mishra, Convenor
Dr. Satyananda Mohanty, Secretary
Mihir K. Sahu, Trustee, SCET
Maa Jayashree, Founder SCET, Director of USR,
Chairperson of Reception Committee
Simran Dhillon, Public Relations
Sharon Messer, Director of USR, Treasurer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Which is more dangerous for Hindus? |
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On Nov 16, 1:53�am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr..
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <2115b203-db31-4f29-a702-5eade5b4c...@v16g2000prc.googlegroups..com>,
�fanabba <fana...@aol.com> posted:
Which is more dangerous for Hindus?
The Religion of Love
or
The Religion of Peace ?
I post, you decide:
Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
� � �"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
� � �"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
� � �"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
�- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: Which is more dangerous for Hindus? |
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On Nov 16, 2:53 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <2115b203-db31-4f29-a702-5eade5b4c...@v16g2000prc.googlegroups..com>,
fanabba <fana...@aol.com> posted:
Which is more dangerous for Hindus?
The Religion of Love
or
The Religion of Peace ?
I post, you decide:
Facts about terrorist Islam and Muslims:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
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| Quote: | "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
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WOW, that sounds a lot like the situation on the Battle field of
Kuruksetra, where relatives, sons, brothers cousins, uncles etc are
arrayed on opposite sides and are about to kill each other. the Battle
field of Kuruksetra is the setting for exposition of the Bhagavad
Gita.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Which is more dangerous for Hindus? |
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That's not what Jesus meant, he was saying that to be one with God you must
forget everyone and give God 100% of yourself!!!
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All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Students smartest in the world |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
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So when is India going to start building cars that are
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Students smartest in the world |
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On Nov 17, 3:09 pm, David R Tribble <da...@tribble.com> wrote:
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Indian Students smartest in the world
--So when is India going to start building cars that are |
--better and cheaper than those built by the Japanese?
When the cows come home....
BTW, they are smart enought not to return to the hellhole they left
behind.
P.S: Most illegal aliens in the US are Indians, second only to S.
Americans.
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David R Tribble
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Students smartest in the world |
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David R Tribble <david@tribble.com> posted:
| Quote: | So when is India going to start building cars that are
better and cheaper than those built by the Japanese?
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
| Quote: | What are your specs for a "better" car and at what reasonable price?
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Are you implying that India already makes cars that are better
and cheaper than Japanese cars, depending on what "specs"
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Students smartest in the world |
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On Nov 17, 12:50 pm, David R Tribble <da...@tribble.com> wrote:
| Quote: | David R Tribble <da...@tribble.com> posted:
So when is India going to start building cars that are
better and cheaper than those built by the Japanese?
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
What are your specs for a "better" car and at what reasonable price?
Are you implying that India already makes cars that are better
and cheaper than Japanese cars, depending on what "specs"
we use?
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there is the tata nano
but watch out for them tuk-tuks
they may be efficient
but the smell is unbelievable...
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Students smartest in the world |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted (in part):
| Quote: | 'Vedic technology has not lost its relevance'
By a Staff Reporter
The Hindu
Tuesday, November 08, 2005
Seminar focuses on rich Vedic heritage
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[snip]
| Quote: | Giving a power point presentation, Mr. Sastry showcased how
pure mathematics formed an integral part of the Vedas. "If
one goes deep into the Vedas then he or she would find
every aspect of modern applied mathematics like complex
geometry and trigonometry mentioned somewhere in the Vedas.
Subjects like astronomy, bio-technology, space technology,
aeronautics, civil engineering, chemical engineering and
atomic structures are discussed in detail by sages like
Bharadwaja, Valmiki and Agastya under different chapters
and texts."
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Suggested reading --->
Kenneth O. May, "Historical vices II. priority chasing",
Historia Mathematica 2 (1975), 315-317.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Donations to Hindu temples in Bharat |
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On Nov 17, 2:09 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
| Quote: | Hinduism is no longer the majority religion since
true Hindus are now a small minority in Bharat. The
Constitution needs to be amended.
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.... amended by the majority who are not true Hindus? If not, how would
a minority go about amending the Constitution? |
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harmony
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Which is more dangerous for Hindus? |
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get all chrisitans out of christianity if they want to be liked.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so
unlike your Christ.” — Mahatma Gandhi
"Jaxxx" <jackrwilliams@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | That's not what Jesus meant, he was saying that to be one with God you
must forget everyone and give God 100% of yourself!!!
All one needs to know about Christianity is right here -
the terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother
in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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