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 Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: Re: Will Durant on India |
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On Oct 19, 6:18 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
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uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> posted:
On Oct 18, fanabba <fana...@aol.com> posted:
Will Durant on India:
"India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of
Europe's languages; she was the mother of our philosophy; mother,
through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the
Buddha, of ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the
village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is
in many ways the mother of us all."
Thanks. Similar comments by Mark Twain, Voltaire and many many others
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Presumably from Durant's first volume, now nearly a century old (and
not exactly au courant with historical scholarship of its age), and
the other two from earlier centuries. He probably got this from Max
Muller.
| Quote: | Bharatiya, Vedic-Hindu civilization remains the mother of humankind.
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Sure, if you're not interested in what has been learned about the past
_since_ Vedic times. |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Will Durant on India |
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In article <b68a2494-257e-4f46-bc79-4026df7428f2@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurantaka@yahoo.com> posted:
| Quote: | On Oct 18, fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:
Will Durant on India:
"India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of
Europe's languages; she was the mother of our philosophy; mother,
through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the
Buddha, of ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the
village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is
in many ways the mother of us all."
Thanks. Similar comments by Mark Twain, Voltaire and many many others
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Bharatiya, Vedic-Hindu civilization remains the mother of humankind.
***===--- GARV SAY KAHEI(N) HINDU HAI(N)! ---===***
Jai Maharaj
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: Re: Should Hinduism have the death penalty for apostasy? |
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Abolish the death penalty.
"I do believe that where there is only
a choice between cowardice and violence I
would advise violence . . . but non-violence
is infinitely superior to violence."
- Mahatma Gandhi.
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In article <d3459b70-c6a1-4eb0-8952-c3c3662a2894@u57g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Moorthy <mortayee@hotmail.co.uk> posted:
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On 19 Oct, 01:40, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com
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On Oct 18, 3:20 pm, Moorthy <morta...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 18 Oct, 21:37, fanabba <fana...@aol.com> wrote:
Should Hinduism have the death penalty for apostasy?
Islam has the the death penalty for apostasy.
There should most certainly be death for all the advocates of death
for apostasy.
Would such a penalty make it safe for Muslims to apostasize?
As matter of principle I=92m against capital punishment, the above
riposte was merely to express my utter horror at the very idea of
medieval and barbaric manner of curtailing one of the most fundamental
human rights. With regard to your question, enforcing this law would
mean having to eliminate a fairly sizeable fraction of the Muslims who
hold this injunction to be revelation from the Almighty. The
elimination of such large albeit rabid antisocial ideologues is
impractical, and therefore your question becomes hypothetical.
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Gods & Monkeys
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Will Durant on India |
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On Oct 19, 3:18pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <b68a2494-257e-4f46-bc79-4026df742...@l77g2000hse.googlegroups..com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> posted:
On Oct 18, fanabba <fana...@aol.com> posted:
Will Durant on India:
"India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of
Europe's languages; she was the mother of our philosophy; mother,
through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the
Buddha, of ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the
village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is
in many ways the mother of us all."
Thanks. Similar comments by Mark Twain, Voltaire and many many others
Bharatiya, Vedic-Hindu civilization remains the mother of humankind.
***===--- GARV SAY KAHEI(N) HINDU HAI(N)! ---===***
Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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Wrong again Dr. Loon. Just saying so don't make it so. And who gives a
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"Thomas Jefferson's VIRGINIA STATUTE FOR RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM became law and an American founding principle
in the year 1786 -- an excerpt follows:
"An amendment [which proposed to insert] the words
'Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion,' [was
rejected] by a great majority, in proof that they meant
to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the
Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan,
the Hindoo[1] and the infidel [any non-Christian] of
every denomination.""
The "every" as an american ideal is also frozen in the indian
constitution. Under it all are equal and each individual has the
complete and fully protected right to worship as they choose, or not at
all, without prmission nor interference from any other. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Bhagavad Gita |
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In article <e4641c8e-6546-4d40-b754-1e4bc441792a@v53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:
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Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Bhagavad Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was as if an empire
spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent,
the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
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Dhanyavaad for posting the above quotation.
TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM
1. Mahatma Gandhi:
"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed along
material but spiritual lines.
"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because I
have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."
2. Henry David Thoreau:
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and
cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in comparison
with which our modern world and its literature seems puny.
"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes a
loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me like
the full moon after the stars have come out, wading through
some far stratum in the sky."
3. Arthur Schopenhauer:
"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so
elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the solace
of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence
which in another age and climate had pondered and thus
disposed of the same questions which exercise us."
The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.
5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:
"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."
6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:
"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive, when
the British dominion in India shall long have ceased to
exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth and
power are lost to remembrances."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.
"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."
8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:
"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who tried
to hustle the east".
9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:
"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he said
of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed too
much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught of
life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West --
Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant. Let
me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for a
little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of love,
of pity, of clemency."
10. Shri Aurobindo:
"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself no
sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single narrow
path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or cult than
a continuously enlarging tradition of the Godward endeavor
of the human spirit. An immense many-sided and many staged
provision for a spiritual self-building and self-finding,
it had some right to speak of itself by the only name it
knew, the eternal religion, sanaatan dharm...."
11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:
"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and spoliation,
India will teach us the tolerance and gentleness of the
mature mind, the quiet content of the unacquisitive soul,
the calm of the understanding spirit, and a unifying, a
pacifying love for all living things."
12. Joseph Campbell:
"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite wonders
of a universe of untold billions of galaxies should be
saddled with the tightest little cosmological image known
to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose Kalpas and
their ideas of the divine power which is beyond all human
category (male or female). Not so alien to the imagery of
modern science that it could not have been put to
acceptable use.
"There is an important difference between the Hindu and the
Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates man,
but man cannot say that he is divine in the same sense that
the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all things are
incarnations of that power. We are the sparks from a single
fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism believes in the
omnipresence of the Supreme God in every individual. There
is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from the divine. He
requires only to bring the spontaneous activity of his mind
stuff to a state of stillness and he will experience that
divine principle with him."
13. Sir Monier-Williams:
The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted by
scientists of the present age.
14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any art
or religion can boast of."
15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:
"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not, and
there are sins which exceed his love."
Jai Maharaj
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Mirza Ghalib
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Will Durant on India |
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On Oct 19, 8:17pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Oct 19, 6:18 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In article <b68a2494-257e-4f46-bc79-4026df742...@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
uNmaiviLambi <tripurant...@yahoo.com> posted:
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In article <123cc22b-de57-4fa9-96a4-0c4fbfd0374e@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:
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Famous Musician George Harrison : A Hare Krishna Devotee
http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/aa120501a.htm
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George was one of my neighbors on Maui.
Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: Re: CHRISTIAN FATHER CONVERTS TO HINDUISM |
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In article <1eabc9e3-19ce-45a2-a930-02206a7b871e@d31g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
fanabba <fanabba@aol.com> posted:
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On Oct 23, 2:19=EF=BF=BDam, ravimpillay <ravimpil...@gmail.com> posted:
Christian priest converts to Hinduism
Gaurav Saigal in Varanasi
A Catholic priest, Father Anthony Fernandes, converted to Hinduism
here on Tuesday.
The Jesuit priest was converted at a public ceremony at Ram Krishna
Temple in the ancient Hindu city.
"Today is a day of great joy for me, as I am no more attached to any
church; from today, Fr Anthony is no more and Shankar Dev has taken
birth," Anthony told rediff.com just after Hindu priests formally
declared him as a member of the community.
The shuddhikaran (purification) of Fr Fernandes was followed by mundan
(ceremonial headshaving) carried out under the auspices of the Hindu
Sanskar Kendra, a religious body of priests - amid chanting of Vedic
hymns and sacred Sanskrit couplets, after which he was given the name
Shankar Dev.
After a Dasvidh Snan (holy bath), Fernandes was draped in a saffron
robe with sandalwood paste on his forehead.
"The change is not a publicity stunt nor just a religious
transformation for me. I have gone for this change only to rid the
corrupt society I had been living in all these years," remarked the
middle-aged priest.
"It is out of my personal experience that I can tell the wrong deeds
of Indian missionaries where I spent three decades; they have created
a situation where one can easily raise questions about their working;
those sitting on high positions whom people consider as spiritual
leaders, in fact play a dubious role," said the former father, who
served in the Christian missions of Goa and Gujarat since childhood.
"For 400 years our family has served as true Catholics and I too grew
up in Majorda (Goa), where 80 per cent people are Christians; after
education at St Xavier's, Ahmedabad, I opted to serve as a priest," he
pointed out.
He said, "What I have been watching since the early 70s is a big fraud
being played with Christianity itself," adding, "Christianity is being
misused by some in India and people like the bishops are the most
corrupt. In the name of minorities, they are grabbing donations for
themselves; only a deep probe can expose the real faces behind the
spotless white robes," remarked Fernandes.
However, it was not the end of the rough ride for Fernandes, who now
fears the wrath of his four brothers, who are still staunch
Christians. "They may oppose me, but time will certainly tell them
what I did was right; after all, I have adopted a religion that was
not only the most ancient and practiced by our own ancestors, but also
a culture in itself," he added.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Re: Takeover of Indian Media by Virulently anti-Hindu Christ |
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Still waiting for clarification or apology from Moorthy for spreading
libel, slander and falsehoods.
Wanderer wrote:
| Quote: | Moorthy <mortayee@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Now one understands why there has been such a naked anti-Hindu bias in
the so-called 'Indian' media, all major newspapers and TV channels are
owned by Xtians. No wonder it was BBC far more objective about recent
Orissa riots, whilst Times of India, NDTV (owned by Xtian Bong) et al
had been unashamedly biased. I'm afraid things will become worse.
It will if you continue to flood Usenet with the utterly fabricated
bullshit that the saffron nitwits have used to carpet-bomb the internet!
://indowave.tripod.com/AntiHinduMedia.html
) NDTV: Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism.
Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because
Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in
Pakistan. NDTV's CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen
Secy of Communist party of India.Brinda Karat's sister Radhika Roy is
married to Prannoy Roy, a Christian. Also Prannoy Roy is a cousin of
the prominent media personality Arundhati Roy
NDTV is a publicly traded company with majority ownership by Prannoy and
Radhika Roy. There is no "Gospels of Charity in Spain", the purported
"funder" of NDTV. Prannoy Roy is a neo-conservative, which is about as
far from being communist or supporting communism that I could imagine. I
would be delighted if you could provide me with verifiable information
on this ethereal organization, "Gospels of Charity in Spain", and its
alleged links to NDTV.
(B) CNN-IBN: 100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches
in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annually allocates 800
Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is
Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.
CNN is owned by Time-Warner, a publicly traded company. IBN is an Indian
publicly traded company. It's parent company is Network 18, a media
group owned 51% by Raghav Bahl. Rajdeep Sardesai is a Saraswat Brahmin
and the son of Test cricketer Dilip Sardesai. The Southern Baptists have
no connection to CNN-IBN or to Network 18 that I could find. I would be
delighted if you could provide me with verifiable information on this
ethereal connection and/or evidence to the effect that Raghav Bahl,
Rajdeep Sardesai et al are Christians.
(C) TIMES GROUP LIST: TIMES OF INDIA, MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES,
STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr
News Channel) & many more.
Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done
by "WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL", and balance 20% is equally shared by an
Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE
RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI.
Bennett & Coleman is a publicly traded company majority owned by the
Sahu Jain Group. "WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL" has no involvement with it,
and neither do the mystery Englishman or the mystery Italian. I would be
delighted if you could provide me with verifiable information that the
Sahu Jain group is a family of Christians/Catholics and that this "WORLD
CHRISTIAN COUNCIL" is in cahoots with them.
(D) STAR TV: Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St.Peters
Pontificia l Church Melbourne.
Star TV is owned by News Corp, which was founded by Rupert Murdoch.
Murdoch is an American citizen, born in Australia to a Presbyterian
family, and therefore not a member of a Catholic church. I would be
delighted if you could provide me with verifiable information that
Rupert Murdoch is or ever was a member of "St. Peters Pontificia l
Church Melbourne."
(E) HINDUSTAN TIMES: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed
since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in
Collobration with Times Group.
Neither the large stakeholders of the Times Group nor the Birla Group
are Christians, as far as I have been able to ascertain. I would be
delighted if you could provide me with verifiable information that the
Birlas or the Jains are in fact Christians.
(F) The Hindu: A English Daily, started over 125 years has been
recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland.
There is no "Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland." Also, please explain
what the Joshua Society does, and who its office-bearers are. Ownership
of The Hindu, as far as I have been able to ascertain, remains with the
family of the late Kasturi Ranga Iyengar. I would be delighted if you
could provide me with verifiable information that the descendants and
controlling heirs of Kasturi Ranga Iyengar are indeed Christians, and
also verifiable information pertaining to the "Joshua Society, Berne,
Switzerland."
Failing to provide verifiable information as above, I would expect you
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Is it so strange then that almost all gangrapes are done by muslims?
Is it so strange then that almost all islamic terrorists have child porn on
their computers?
Is it so strange then taht almos all muslims love to destroy what is innosent?
If their own ideal man-prophet was a child raping, innosence destroying,
pedophile, how much better can muslims be?
Their prophet is the highest they can become. That is their ideal. That is
what most want to be in their hearts.
I feel sorry for them.
mudali@sympatico.ca wrote:
| Quote: | On Sep 26, 3:03 am, ravimpillay <ravimpil...@gmail.com> wrote:
MUHAMMAD DIES DURING SEX WITH AISHA SUCKING HER BREAST
Muhammad Dies During Sex With Aisha Sucking Her Breast
This is one amazing hilarious fact that your Ulamas will never tell
you. Muhammad dies while having sex with Aisha. Did he die during
foreplay or while humping 18 year old Aisha? From the Hadith below, we
know that he french kissed Aisha by sucking her saliva, and later he
met his final destination while sucking Aisha’s big breast. Probably
he had a heart attack. You know, old man having sex with young girl.
Young girl played rough during sex and dirty old man’s heart couldn’t
handle it.
Can you see how this dirty old man was acting like a spoiled brat?
This hypocrite munafiq commanded you Muslims to be fair to all of your
four wives, but he himself could not be fair to his own wives. If he
wanted to sleep with Aisha instead of his other wives, why don’t he
say so? Why must he ask “Where shall i stay tomorrow? Where shall i
stay tomorrow?”
Did Muhammad manage to say “La Ilaha Illa Allah?” Is there any Hadith
to support this? If he did not managed to say “La Ilaha Illa Allah”
then probably other Muslims who died after saying “La Ilaha Illa
Allah” died a better death than Muhammad. From the Hadith below, it
seems that Muhammad did not manage to say “La Ilaha Illa Allah.”
Probably he died an atheist saying “La Ilaha” (There is no god). The
most evil man in history finally died on June 8, 632 C.E. in Madinah.
That explains why he was buried in the room of Aisha.
Sahih Bukhari,
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 144:
Narrated ‘Aisha:
that during his fatal ailment, Allah’s Apostle, used to ask his
wives, “Where shall I stay tomorrow? Where shall I stay tomorrow?” He
was looking forward to Aisha’s turn. So all his wives allowed him to
stay where he wished, and he stayed at ‘Aisha’s house till he died
there. ‘Aisha added: He died on the day of my usual turn at my house.
Allah took him unto Him while his head was between my chest and my
neck and his saliva was mixed with my saliva.
I wonder whether they managed to get rid of Muhammad’s rigor mortis
hard-on which is sticking straight up in the air and if they don’t do
something, it will look odd at the funeral. That could explain the
reason why they waited for 2 days to bury Muhammad. That also explains
why he was buried in the room of Aisha.
Sahih Bukhari,
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299:
Narrated ‘Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:
(on the authority of his father) ‘Aisha said: “Whenever Allah’s
Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he
used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her.” ‘Aisha
added, “None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet
could.”
Sahih Bukhari,
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 6:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet I used to go round (have sexual relations with) all
his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.
From Ibn Hisham page 682:
….that he heard Aisha [one of Muhammad's wives] say: “The apostle
died in my bosom during my turn: [the night Muhammad was to spend
sleeping with her] I had wronged none in regard to him. It was due to
my ignorance and extreme youth that the apostle died in my arms.”
Mohamed was a child rapist. He kidnapped Ayesha when she was barely
six years old. He started to have sex with this child Ayesha when she
was NINE. That time he was 58. What a moron!
Why do these Muslims call him PROPHET? What was told by him about
future events?
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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yeh suniyay ki gandhi ji nay kyaa kahaa thaa:
"I do believe that where there is only
a choice between cowardice and violence I
would advise violence . . . but non-violence
is infinitely superior to violence."
- Mahatma Gandhi.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <4918c655$0$5502$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
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it is saying that enough is enough. hindus will respond to terror in
organized way because the indian govt is in bed with terrorists. |
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dhananjay
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the ATS knows about sadhvi prdnya from 2006 about her speeches and
involvements of some accused in military training.
at Feb 09 LS polls so, to put you on defensive "secular alliance"
opened a speculative sceane where no charge sheet is put even after 15
days on sadhvi.
The sadhvi is being man handled without putting any chargesheet while
afzal guru enjoys life even after supreme court ruled for death
penalty.
to mention that hindu nationalists should feel guilty for the
"violance they support" as opposed by non violance why the state which
follows gandhi is using violance with sadhvi?
why not treat her with roses instead of narko tests and try to turn
her mind away from hard core hindutva to monirity apeasment politics?
try it.
to put the counter argument on non violance and muslim killings
because they are muslims (which is suppose to put you in guilt)
consider this, indian state (all of them mind it) are treated as enemy
in pakistan (and bangladesh) by muslim governments there (all are
muslims) and the indians are accused and convicted in murder bomb
blast and serial killings of pakistani people (of coarse muslims) eg
sarabjit singh.
the indian government if i select to believe pakistani media plans to
kill muslims in pakistan (a terrorist act right?) but arrests sadhvi
for allegedly doing so?
means they want to decide when muslims will be killed because they are
muslims in pakistan but on retaliation when these pakistani groups do
serial bomb blasts in india in mumbai in local trains and run away
with help from local minority apeasing politicians e.g abu aazmi MP SP
(as he was arrested in TADA after 1992 later released by CBI when case
transfred) hindus should stick to two min silence. it is true that
sadvi can not run away as she considers this her own country her
monther land (remember vande mataram?) and she fights for akhand
bharat unlike muslims who plan revenge blasts not for non secular
stands from GOI (who cares for indian government) but because of its
hindu identity in its past.
The indian government (any party) should answer the pakistani
accusations that why it plans underground attacks on islamic
terrorists in pakistan (as they cant go on open war like US did in
iraq?) but does want its hindu population to remain un affected by the
decade long retaliation attacks and run away from india (into
pakistan) by muslim terrorists? that too with support from local
population, see zakhir naik's lectures.
do they think hindus will feel guilt for a woman coming forward to
take their side when those who should are showing insensitivity?
And for the secular parties in india (i mean those minority pleasing)
its time to show that they are true secular by coming forward for
hindu terrorists too just like they do for islamic terrorists and cry
for help and violation of human rights!
after all hindus are human too right?
Dhananjay |
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harmony
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hindus have no choice but to look after their own security since
a) the govt is in bed with terrorists.
b) they have no legal agency to depend on for their own safety. and we are
talking about their safety not in a foreign country from which they could
migrate out; we are talking about thier own homeland.
c) hindus don't need to worry about 3m axis labeling them. the 3m is already
doing it, so what the heck? it is a fight for survival. the fight against
terror in india is not different than the pre-emption usa is fighting. if
the indian govt is not going to have pota and such stern measures, what are
the hindus supposed to do? not certainly die like mahatma.
"dhananjay" <bandyaggroup@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:8cc2eafc-fedf-40d8-aec3-ca8f77c89361@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | the ATS knows about sadhvi prdnya from 2006 about her speeches and
involvements of some accused in military training.
at Feb 09 LS polls so, to put you on defensive "secular alliance"
opened a speculative sceane where no charge sheet is put even after 15
days on sadhvi.
The sadhvi is being man handled without putting any chargesheet while
afzal guru enjoys life even after supreme court ruled for death
penalty.
to mention that hindu nationalists should feel guilty for the
"violance they support" as opposed by non violance why the state which
follows gandhi is using violance with sadhvi?
why not treat her with roses instead of narko tests and try to turn
her mind away from hard core hindutva to monirity apeasment politics?
try it.
to put the counter argument on non violance and muslim killings
because they are muslims (which is suppose to put you in guilt)
consider this, indian state (all of them mind it) are treated as enemy
in pakistan (and bangladesh) by muslim governments there (all are
muslims) and the indians are accused and convicted in murder bomb
blast and serial killings of pakistani people (of coarse muslims) eg
sarabjit singh.
the indian government if i select to believe pakistani media plans to
kill muslims in pakistan (a terrorist act right?) but arrests sadhvi
for allegedly doing so?
means they want to decide when muslims will be killed because they are
muslims in pakistan but on retaliation when these pakistani groups do
serial bomb blasts in india in mumbai in local trains and run away
with help from local minority apeasing politicians e.g abu aazmi MP SP
(as he was arrested in TADA after 1992 later released by CBI when case
transfred) hindus should stick to two min silence. it is true that
sadvi can not run away as she considers this her own country her
monther land (remember vande mataram?) and she fights for akhand
bharat unlike muslims who plan revenge blasts not for non secular
stands from GOI (who cares for indian government) but because of its
hindu identity in its past.
The indian government (any party) should answer the pakistani
accusations that why it plans underground attacks on islamic
terrorists in pakistan (as they cant go on open war like US did in
iraq?) but does want its hindu population to remain un affected by the
decade long retaliation attacks and run away from india (into
pakistan) by muslim terrorists? that too with support from local
population, see zakhir naik's lectures.
do they think hindus will feel guilt for a woman coming forward to
take their side when those who should are showing insensitivity?
And for the secular parties in india (i mean those minority pleasing)
its time to show that they are true secular by coming forward for
hindu terrorists too just like they do for islamic terrorists and cry
for help and violation of human rights!
after all hindus are human too right?
Dhananjay
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: the hindu worm may be turning |
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"I do believe that where there is only
a choice between cowardice and violence I
would advise violence . . . but non-violence
is infinitely superior to violence."
- Mahatma Gandhi.
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/24fq83
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
In article <491c8595$0$5474$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
| Quote: |
hindus have no choice but to look after their own security since
a) the govt is in bed with terrorists.
b) they have no legal agency to depend on for their own safety. and we are
talking about their safety not in a foreign country from which they could
migrate out; we are talking about thier own homeland.
c) hindus don't need to worry about 3m axis labeling them. the 3m is already
doing it, so what the heck? it is a fight for survival. the fight against
terror in india is not different than the pre-emption usa is fighting. if
the indian govt is not going to have pota and such stern measures, what are
the hindus supposed to do? not certainly die like mahatma.
"dhananjay" <bandyaggroup@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:8cc2eafc-fedf-40d8-aec3-ca8f77c89361@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
the ATS knows about sadhvi prdnya from 2006 about her speeches and
involvements of some accused in military training.
at Feb 09 LS polls so, to put you on defensive "secular alliance"
opened a speculative sceane where no charge sheet is put even after 15
days on sadhvi.
The sadhvi is being man handled without putting any chargesheet while
afzal guru enjoys life even after supreme court ruled for death
penalty.
to mention that hindu nationalists should feel guilty for the
"violance they support" as opposed by non violance why the state which
follows gandhi is using violance with sadhvi?
why not treat her with roses instead of narko tests and try to turn
her mind away from hard core hindutva to monirity apeasment politics?
try it.
to put the counter argument on non violance and muslim killings
because they are muslims (which is suppose to put you in guilt)
consider this, indian state (all of them mind it) are treated as enemy
in pakistan (and bangladesh) by muslim governments there (all are
muslims) and the indians are accused and convicted in murder bomb
blast and serial killings of pakistani people (of coarse muslims) eg
sarabjit singh.
the indian government if i select to believe pakistani media plans to
kill muslims in pakistan (a terrorist act right?) but arrests sadhvi
for allegedly doing so?
means they want to decide when muslims will be killed because they are
muslims in pakistan but on retaliation when these pakistani groups do
serial bomb blasts in india in mumbai in local trains and run away
with help from local minority apeasing politicians e.g abu aazmi MP SP
(as he was arrested in TADA after 1992 later released by CBI when case
transfred) hindus should stick to two min silence. it is true that
sadvi can not run away as she considers this her own country her
monther land (remember vande mataram?) and she fights for akhand
bharat unlike muslims who plan revenge blasts not for non secular
stands from GOI (who cares for indian government) but because of its
hindu identity in its past.
The indian government (any party) should answer the pakistani
accusations that why it plans underground attacks on islamic
terrorists in pakistan (as they cant go on open war like US did in
iraq?) but does want its hindu population to remain un affected by the
decade long retaliation attacks and run away from india (into
pakistan) by muslim terrorists? that too with support from local
population, see zakhir naik's lectures.
do they think hindus will feel guilt for a woman coming forward to
take their side when those who should are showing insensitivity?
And for the secular parties in india (i mean those minority pleasing)
its time to show that they are true secular by coming forward for
hindu terrorists too just like they do for islamic terrorists and cry
for help and violation of human rights!
after all hindus are human too right?
Dhananjay
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