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Midwinter
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 Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Intrinsically Spatial . |
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On 23 Jun 2003, Parse Tree held forth thus:
| Quote: | No, you don't need photons to observe the asteroids. We only have one
sense that really uses photons to any degree. Sound waves certainly
don't require them.
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No, that is true, sound waves do not. But without photons, what would we
observe an asteroid with?
| Quote: | But by hearing something, you have to first bounce something off of
that thing.
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Not necessarily. In order to hear the echo from a thing, perhaps to
range it, you would need to bounce sound waves off it. In order to hear
any noise that thing might generate, the sound waves need only travel
from the source of the sound to your ear (or other suitable listening
device).
| Quote: | Yes, that's correct. But the principle that you disturb something
merely by observing it remains true in all cases. Even if the change
itself is virtually imperceptible.
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This would seem sensible.
| Quote: | The uncertainty principle actually states that you can't know both the
position and momentum of a given object. So actually, the uncertainty
principle doesn't state it. It's just a thing that is commonly seen to
be said by it by the general audience.
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I suspect that would depend on point of view. Certainly, in the literal
sense the Principle states as you say it does. However, since the
unavoidable consequence of that is that observation affects the thing
being observed, I would say it is reasonable to draw that conclusion from
the Principle itself.
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Midwinter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Word Games ? |
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On 23 Jun 2003, Jeff Relf held forth thus:
| Quote: | Why would I play word games with
someone who can't even use a dictionary ?
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Well, since your skills are superior to mine, then teach me. Help me to
learn, that I might better understand the truth in what you say.
Show me the correct dictionary to use, and I will try to correct my
deficiencies.
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Gulshan Khan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: "HINDUS R COWARDS by nature" Prophet of Peace Mohandas |
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After thought? uh ?
"HINDUtron" <Hindutron@neutron.net> wrote in message
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..........however Farooq's assumption about Pakistan's support
of
Mujahdeen is flawed .........they only get moral support.
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They were naive to follow Gandhi in being nice to Arabwannbes. But
after him
Hindu patient with Arabwannabes disappeared, ad that you can find
out from
you Dad who with 90,000 others pakis had to endure 'banya joota'in
1971!
Hiding behine 40M bangalis is the pinacle of your success in last
3000 years... :)
paki madherchod hijida,unlike you hideing behind burquah even
today:)))))))
hehehe kooly mothetchod chakka if you do not respect your EX sulla
masters you will reincarnate with long years and big tail... :)
you mean madherchod muhammed was with long years and big
tail:)))))))and thats why you respect him:))))
For retards like Gulshit Khand it means jack-ass.
he does not know aisha was a jeni ass.... madherchod paki duffer
refers it as she donkey:)))))
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That she donkey is you motherchos reincarnated as one  The other she
is only sita ravans slut... |
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Patrick
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Happiness . |
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"Lush" <Count.Lushbat@nof*ckingspam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hard work needs to come into the equation too.
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+ Where does a nice cold beer after mowing the lawn come in?
+ That has gots ta be a bit o heaven.
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"Jeff Relf" <____Jeff-Relf@NCPlus.NET> wrote in message
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Parse Tree replies to Joseph Geloso :
" If happiness is defined by the pursuit of pleasure , ... "
Happiness might be one's luck divided by one's expectations .
While luck is hard or impossible to change ,
one can always change his expectations .
And all meaning is local to a time ,
a space , and a " Scale " .
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Alexander Kalinowski
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Word Games ? |
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In alt.religion.christian Jeff Relf <____Jeff-Relf@ncplus.net> wrote:
: Midwinter suggests : " [ Jeff is ] playing word games . "
: Why would I play word games with
: someone who can't even use a dictionary ?
Alex:
Well, I am asking you. Because if I understood you correctly you took the
third law of thermodynamics to say:
"The hotter it is the more produced without being planted or without human
labor the entropy is."
(Now does that make sense?)
If I have misunderstood your words at some point however, feel free to
correct me.
Me, otoh, think you haven't been handling the dictionary right yourself. You
have been using the word more in the sense of "arising from a momentary
impulse" - as in such cases the human behaviour is fairly unpredictable and
you have been quite obviously using spontaneous in the sense of
unpredictability.
Just remember this: before pointing at the splinter in another's eye, first
take a look at the beam in your own.
So, to finish this post: even *if* midwinter would err about the meaning of
spontaneous - why would you get impatient with her and post a post like the
above? Again, it's necessary here to keep the splinter and the beam in
mind.
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Ironywaves
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Isis House: poetry & magick |
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koolfire_or
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: "HINDUS R COWARDS by nature" Prophet of Peace Mohandas |
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After thought? uh ?
"HINDUtron" <Hindutron@neutron.net> wrote in message
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..........however Farooq's assumption about Pakistan's support
of
Mujahdeen is flawed .........they only get moral support.
--
They were naive to follow Gandhi in being nice to Arabwannbes. But
after him
Hindu patient with Arabwannabes disappeared, ad that you can find
out from
you Dad who with 90,000 others pakis had to endure 'banya joota'in
1971!
Hiding behine 40M bangalis is the pinacle of your success in last
3000 years... :)
paki madherchod hijida,unlike you hideing behind burquah even
today:)))))))
hehehe kooly mothetchod chakka if you do not respect your EX sulla
masters you will reincarnate with long years and big tail... :)
you mean madherchod muhammed was with long years and big
tail:)))))))and thats why you respect him:))))
For retards like Gulshit Khand it means jack-ass.
he does not know aisha was a jeni ass.... madherchod paki duffer
refers it as she donkey:)))))
That she donkey is you motherchos reincarnated as one The other she
is only sita ravans slut...
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choora guly,whats the connection you dumarse madherchod halfbreed
paki fucker,you thoughts also are as haphazard,as the fucking of
devdasi and unconnected sulla:))))the only thing that is in order, is
that you are a taxi drivin pimp, of your women:))))) |
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koolfire_or
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: "HINDUS R COWARDS by nature" Prophet of Peace Mohandas |
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After thought? uh ?
"HINDUtron" <Hindutron@neutron.net> wrote in message
news:3EF323D0.9050209@neutron.net...
..........however Farooq's assumption about Pakistan's support of
Mujahdeen is flawed .........they only get moral support.
--
They were naive to follow Gandhi in being nice to Arabwannbes. But after him
Hindu patient with Arabwannabes disappeared, ad that you can find out from
you Dad who with 90,000 others pakis had to endure 'banya joota'in 1971!
Hiding behine 40M bangalis is the pinacle of your success in last 3000 years... :)
paki madherchod hijida,unlike you hideing behind burquah even today:)))))))
hehehe kooly mothetchod chakka if you do not respect your EX sulla
masters you will reincarnate with long years and big tail... :)
you mean madherchod muhammed was with long years and big
tail:)))))))and thats why you respect him:))))
I meant sita was ravans bitch fucking moron retard a hind...
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naa ghandoo, why would you say that when you know madherchod mohammed
was a donkey,and aisha was a preeteen child slut:))) |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: 'Ideas of Christianity and Islam are fraudulent' |
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In article <3c7c9804.0306230018.231b2987@posting.google.com>,
cpptutor2000@yahoo.com (Gandu) posted:
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"Anonymous" <asdf@qwert.com> wrote in message
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All of the ideas of Christianity and Islam are plain fraudulent.
1. Jesus was born to a 'virgin'. Ha! what a cheap way to hide the
brutal truth that Jesus was a bastard!
2. When a Christian dies, a priest comes in and mumbles some nonsense
from a book full of anachronisms and the dying person goes to heaven!
Oh dear! The dying man could be a murderer, rapist or the most
reprehensible person, but if the priest says so, he/she goes to
heaven. Wow!
3. The son of 'God' had to die on a cross, nailed there by a group of
cheap riff-raff? So, the basic premise that Jesus was a son of God
is totally wrong!
4. The 'holy' book of Christians, is FULL of anachronisims. One disciple
speaks of the life of Jesus during a period of time, and another talks
of Jesus being alive 30 - 40 years late. During those ancient times,
30 years was the normal lifespan of a man! SO, THE BIBLE IS COMPLETELY
FRAUDULENT!
Jesus Christ can suck my d***!
Shall we go on?
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Here is the mission of Jesus stated in the Bible and many
Christians follow it literally:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not so send peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his
father, and the daughter against her mother, and the
daughter in law against her mother in law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own
household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti |
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Gulshan Khan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: "HINDUS R COWARDS by nature" Prophet of Peace Mohandas |
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After thought? uh ?
"HINDUtron" <Hindutron@neutron.net> wrote in message
news:3EF323D0.9050209@neutron.net...
..........however Farooq's assumption about Pakistan's support of
Mujahdeen is flawed .........they only get moral support.
--
They were naive to follow Gandhi in being nice to Arabwannbes. But after him
Hindu patient with Arabwannabes disappeared, ad that you can find out from
you Dad who with 90,000 others pakis had to endure 'banya joota'in 1971!
Hiding behine 40M bangalis is the pinacle of your success in last 3000 years... :)
paki madherchod hijida,unlike you hideing behind burquah even today:)))))))
hehehe kooly mothetchod chakka if you do not respect your EX sulla
masters you will reincarnate with long years and big tail... :)
you mean madherchod muhammed was with long years and big
tail:)))))))and thats why you respect him:))))
I meant sita was ravans bitch fucking moron retard a hind... :)
naa ghandoo, why would you say that when you know madherchod mohammed
was a donkey,and aisha was a preeteen child slut:)))
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robin
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: 'Ideas of Christianity and Islam are fraudulent' |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
| Quote: | Here is the mission of Jesus stated in the Bible and many
Christians follow it literally:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came not so send peace, but a sword.
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oh please
we got rock em sock em robots instead |
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Jeff Relf
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: A Day May Come . |
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Midwinter wrote :
" What does any of this have to do with your bizarre
posting layout and the relevance of the discussion
to a Catholic group ? "
If the man had a halfway decent newsreader , instead of Google ,
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Jeff Relf
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Sponˇtaˇneˇous |
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Alexander Kalinowski mentioned the word " Spontaneous " .
Go to " Dictionary. COM " ,
I think this is the best dictionary .
( " M-W. COM " and " Wiki Pedia. ORG " are also good . )
There , among the many definitions listed ,
you find this definition from
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary , (c) 1996 , 1998 :
" sponˇtaˇneˇous adj 1 :
happening or arising without apparent external cause ; ...
' spontaneous combustion ' ; ...
[ syn : self-generated ] [ ant : induced ] "
P.S.
The third law of thermodynamics
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Alexander Kalinowski
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Word Games ? |
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In alt.religion.christian Midwinter <midw688@hotmail.com> wrote:
: On 23 Jun 2003, Jeff Relf held forth thus:
:> Why would I play word games with
:> someone who can't even use a dictionary ?
: Well, since your skills are superior to mine, then teach me. Help me to
: learn, that I might better understand the truth in what you say.
: Show me the correct dictionary to use, and I will try to correct my
: deficiencies.
Alex:
He is obviously using m-w.com... :-)
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Alexander Kalinowski
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Word Games ? |
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In alt.religion.christian Midwinter <midw688@hotmail.com> wrote:
: On 23 Jun 2003, Jeff Relf held forth thus:
:> Why would I play word games with
:> someone who can't even use a dictionary ?
: Well, since your skills are superior to mine, then teach me. Help me to
: learn, that I might better understand the truth in what you say.
Alex:
Well, I am asking you the same: have I done sth wrong? Do you avoid my
company?
: Show me the correct dictionary to use, and I will try to correct my
: deficiencies.
Alex:
If I have done sth wrong, please show me, and I will try to correct my
deficiencies.
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